The second is our diversity training, offered to new graduates, mid-career hires, newly appointed managers, and new department store managers. For headquarters employees, there's also an optional program. These trainings fundamentally convey the core concept of Diversity & Inclusion: "Understanding diverse values is crucial when people work together." Since 2013, we've added slides specifically about LGBT issues. Swish, swish, swish—we sneak LGBT into every diversity training session. I call this the "shuriken tactic" (laughs).
Could your business partner be LGBT? Business risks you should consider
Shu: What kind of content do you cover in your LGBT lectures?
Higashi: The premise is that LGBT is "orientation, not preference." There are still many misconceptions—like it being a hobby, a disease, or something temporary that will "go away." So we start by clarifying it's about sexual orientation. But just presenting facts gets lost, so we use role-playing exercises.
For example, imagine joking during a business meeting about a subordinate: "He's 30 and still doesn't have a girlfriend. If this keeps up, he might end up 'over there'!" Only to discover the client sitting right there is actually LGBT. Not only would this cause offense, but it could also damage the company's credibility – making it seem like Nomura talks about diversity while doing the exact opposite.
Shu: I see, that makes sense. It's clear how this impacts not just workplace comfort but actual business outcomes.
Kitamura: Recent surveys (※Dentsu Inc. Diversity Lab / April 2015) show 7.6% of the Japanese population identifies as LGBT, so the likelihood of having someone close to you is actually quite high. Even straight people who aren't LGBT individuals, if they're allies, probably wouldn't want to work with someone who makes these kinds of remarks, even as a joke. Thinking about it that way, it's not just about LGBT people; it could also lead to the loss of ally talent who understand diversity and have the potential to generate new ideas.
Higashi: Rather than just promoting understanding, it's fair to say the business risk of not understanding LGBT issues is now significant. When executives observe training sessions, they're often surprised to see how many younger employees respond, "I know about it" or "I know someone like that," which can change their perspective.
Also, in training, we try not to focus on "don'ts" – telling people what not to say. That kind of "don'ts training" makes people feel uncomfortable and inhibited about discussing LGBT topics, which is counterproductive.
Kitamura: The third activity is awareness-raising led primarily by the volunteer members I mentioned earlier, a group of about ten people. This includes regularly holding "LGBT Week" events in the employee cafeteria, organizing events after working hours, and creating the "Become an Ally!!" pamphlet. Also, those ally stickers I mentioned earlier? We make them all by hand. Additionally, we introduce our ally initiatives on the Nomura Group website.
Shu: Were there any barriers to holding events like these?
Higashi: When we first explained the plan to the responsible department to get approval, they were definitely very surprised (laughs). They weren't used to hearing terms like "gay" or "lesbian" in the workplace, so they were surprised by those words being used and by using the cafeteria for these activities. But we assured them we'd pack up immediately if anything happened! We started that way, and nothing has happened so far. At the headquarters building, we're also seeing more stickers on computers, and we've heard reports that even the Chairman and executives have put them on.

Thirteen financial institutions sponsor as "LGBT Finance"
Shu: What activities do you undertake outside the company?
Higashi: We mainly have three areas. First, 13 financial companies form a support group called "LGBT Finance." We sponsor events like the "Tokyo International Lesbian & Gay Film Festival" and "Tokyo Rainbow Pride," and hold seminars for students. At the film festival, we sponsor one documentary each year, introducing our philosophy and member companies at the beginning of the film.
Second, together with the previously mentioned support group Good Aging Yellows, we host "Ally Meetings." These serve as both study sessions and networking events for allies, and we've held them twice since 2014.
And then there are lectures at external companies, organizations, universities, and so on. We've also been getting more requests to talk about our company's activities. However, while we engage in external activities, we are simultaneously mindful of our internal environment.
Shu: So you mean a positive cycle where we learn about our own activities from external perspectives, including societal reactions, and deepen our understanding?
Higashi: Yes. Also, while our internal network is active now and some volunteer members are out, fundamentally, those who prefer not to disclose their status will never get involved with our activities. Whether to disclose is a personal choice, so we don't aim to increase the number of people coming out. However, we believe this external outreach is effective for communicating "Nomura holds these views" even to those within the company who keep their distance from the activities.
Kitamura: As someone who is personally affected, I value communication with those around me at work, so I'm glad I'm open about it in my current role. It's also strengthened my desire to work at this company long-term. That said, I agree with Higashi that it varies from person to person. Even if someone isn't open now, their intentions might change with age or life stage, so we want to maintain an environment where they can speak up anytime.

You can build an ally network even if you're not an LGBT person yourself
Shu: Many companies are positive about LGBT initiatives but unsure how to proceed, and we're getting more requests for advice. Higashi's story is very helpful for those companies, right?
Higashi: I'm glad it's helpful. Like I was in the beginning, many people aren't sure what they can do if they aren't part of the community themselves. So, I started by reading books and articles, listening to people's stories, and learning before figuring out what I could do. I worked hard to design training programs that even HR personnel—who might not have LGBT+ individuals nearby and struggle to imagine the issues or what's needed—could understand. I aimed to make progress without internal conflict. Now, the concept of allies and our training approach seem to resonate. I hope companies will adopt our methods.
Shu: I've also heard that even when there are enthusiastic staff members, they struggle to gain their superiors' understanding. Are there any key points for advancing these activities?
Higashi: Yes, the way you explain it might matter. That 7.6% figure might seem higher than expected, but pushing it can lead to reactions like, "Well, then our female employees, who make up 40% of the company, should still be the higher priority."
Conversely, focusing on the 92.4% highlights a significant majority. Our campaign slogan is: "For the 7.6% of LGBT individuals to thrive, the 92.4% must become allies." From a business perspective, especially for global companies, issues like how to handle same-sex couples married in their home country when they come to the Japan office are unavoidable.
Another point is that both women's advancement and LGBT inclusion are part of diversity promotion. Emphasizing the importance of understanding diverse values, not just women's perspectives, often drives progress.
Shu: As mentioned earlier, even executives are wearing stickers, suggesting considerable internal understanding has already been achieved. Finally, could you share what you aim to tackle next?
Kitamura: While we've made progress in terms of "awareness," there are still many challenges in "deepening understanding." Post-training anonymous surveys showed no negative feedback, indicating participants grasped the importance. However, it's still at the level of "Oh, the company is putting effort into this." Our mission now is to translate this into action to deepen individual understanding. Having people wear ally stickers is one example of such action. Expanding this understanding among more people is our next mission.
Higashi: Specifically, I'd like to develop training for allies. Allies also serve as advocates for LGBT individuals when others lack understanding. For instance, I want to explore what non-LGBT individuals can do more effectively—like skillfully countering discriminatory remarks to raise awareness.
Culturally, Japan tends to prioritize unity over individual differences. But now, as the market shifts, we must understand the needs of diverse customers. Listening to each employee's perspective and developing skills to work with diverse people will undoubtedly enhance corporate value.

●Dentsu Inc. Diversity Lab (DDL)
Based on the belief that "a diverse society that values the 'differences' between people leads to a 'rich future'," DDL is a solution lab formed by specialists from various fields within Dentsu Inc. and the Dentsu Group.
To realize a diverse and prosperous future, it focuses on four main themes: "Disability," "Gender," "Multicultural Coexistence," and "Generation." It provides companies and organizations with knowledge and concrete solutions related to diversity.
Contact:
URL: http://www.dentsu.co.jp/ddl/
E-mail: diversity@dentsu.co.jp
●About the Diversity Web Magazine "cococolor"
cococolor is a web magazine operated by Dentsu Inc. Diversity Lab, founded on the belief that respecting people's differences as rich "individuality" is key to building a diverse society where everyone can live happily.
It covers themes related to human diversity from various perspectives—disability, gender, age, nationality, race, and more—aiming to make diversity feel more accessible and relatable.