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Mr. Kuroki, renowned as a top-tier producer at Fuji TV, and Mr. Kitakaze, Chief Solution Director at Dentsu Inc. Their dialogue, spanning seemingly different yet closely related fields, highlights the sharp perspectives and struggles unique to their generation! The future of television and advertising may well rest on this "in-between generation"... This series presents their daily struggles and passionate insights across five installments.

The theme of the second installment is: "What is the power of a team?"

What emerges when everyone gets excited

Kitakaze: What kind of programs draw you in, Kuroki-san?

Kuroki: Programs where everyone—cast members, staff, even managers—is genuinely excited and energized are incredibly compelling and powerful. It's like a trendy, bustling restaurant. Conversely, programs where the cast and staff lack a shared narrative struggle to connect with viewers.

The projects you worked on, Mr. Kitakaze, also involved many staff members—a kind of "group performance," right? TV is similar, often involving quite a few people. What makes a concept interesting becomes clear from the reactions of the team members, so I place great importance on that. Of course, there are shows where one star carries the whole thing, but when there are several directors and it feels like everyone is working together, things tend to run smoothly.

黒木彰一氏(フジテレビ)
Mr. Shoichi Kuroki (Fuji Television)

This is slightly different from what's often called "insider humor." "Insider humor" is just one technique. It's a technique that's less favored these days. Of course, for me personally, back in the 80s with "Oretachi Hyokin-zoku," the vibe where staff members would appear on screen was incredibly cool at the time. Maybe both I and Fuji TV just can't forget that era. That said, how a team creates its vibe naturally changes with the times, and today has its own methods. Younger producers are naturally thinking about how they'll move forward. Honestly, this is something I'm looking forward to.

Kitakaze: But the question "How do you get the outside excited when the inside isn't?" definitely comes up. It's the same in creative work. Every project needs at least one star, but sometimes you need a star who can craft the copy, other times you need a star who can design the whole system – it's case by case. The real thrill of my job isn't always placing a specific star, but finding the right star for each moment and asking them to work with us.

Kuroki: I see, I understand completely.

北風祐子氏(電通)
Yuko Kitakaze (Dentsu Inc.)

Kitakaze: These days, advertising planning often demands, "Become a superstar who can handle everything." But that's impossible. I understand my own limitations well. Precisely because I know what I lack, I give my all in my own area of expertise. That way, I can confidently ask someone else to handle what I can't do, and they can do it happily. When a team forms like that, it's incredibly fun when everyone gets pumped up and says, "Let's go!" That excitement is what keeps me doing this job. So, while there are stars, it's only when the entire staff and members get fired up together, creating a family-like atmosphere and becoming one, that you can truly create something. I thought that was very similar to how you create your programs, Kuroki-san.

That's why I'm careful to make sure no one on the team is struggling or seems bored. I tell them, "It's okay to argue, but rather than staying silent, everyone should speak up!" That way, the project just keeps getting better and better.

The source for this interview is here.

黒木彰一氏(フジテレビ)と北風祐子氏(電通)

Editorial Perspective #02

There's a golden rule from a senior creator: "Eloquence is silver. Silence is gold-plated." In a world that values adult considerations and reading the room, silence might be the most valuable thing. However, in the creative world, it's worth less than a drop of water. Keep sending the message to your peers: "Isn't this interesting? It's interesting, right?" Even saying "Hey, isn't that boring? It's boring, right?" is perfectly fine. There's no hierarchy. Experience level doesn't matter. We just want to create content that resonates with the world and is loved by it. Because that's the only place our passion lies. Even if we get shot down—"Are you stupid?" "Still no sense, huh?"—it's fine. It's precisely because we get shot down that the debate begins. That defiant spirit, that "Damn it!" challenge, flares up fiercely. That passion inspires the team, rides the airwaves, and ultimately reaches the world through the television screen. It will reach them. This episode truly conveyed the intense passion of these two individuals.

"Talking TV in the TV Gap" – In the third and next installment, we'll finally delve into the core of this discussion: "The 'Gap Generation' Theory in TV History."

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Shōichi Saito

Shōichi Saito

Fuji Television Network

Fuji Television producer. Born in 1969 in Kyoto Prefecture. Moved to Tokyo during the bubble economy in 1989. After graduating from Waseda University's School of Political Science and Economics in 1994, joined Fuji Television. Assigned to the Second Production Division (variety program production). Made his assistant director debut on "Yume ga MORI MORI". In 2000, he became a director for "SMAP×SMAP" and "Waratte Iitomo!" (Tuesday segment). In 2011, he was appointed producer for "Waratte Iitomo!". He built his career serving as chief producer for numerous famous programs. He launched the streaming music program "PARK" in 2017 and "Aoharu TV" (as CP) in 2018. Currently serving as a member of the Nippon Commercial Broadcasters Association Olympic Committee, spearheading the "Let's Do It Together 2020" initiative. Programs currently in charge (as of October 2019): "Kis-My-Ft2 Super BUSAIKU!?", "Kubo Mine Hyada: Kojirasu Night", New Year's special "San-Taku", FOD music program "PARK", etc.

Yuko Kitakaze

Yuko Kitakaze

Dentsu Group Inc.

After graduating from the University of Tokyo, joined Dentsu Inc. Founded the company's first lab, "Mama Lab." Served as a strategic planner for client companies' marketing and new business ventures, involved in planning and executing various initiatives. Held positions including Creative Bureau Director, Executive Officer and inaugural Chief Diversity Officer of Dentsu Japan Network, and Chief Sustainability Officer of Dentsu Japan, assuming the current role in 2024. Oversees the formulation and execution of sustainability strategy and chairs the Group Sustainability Committee. Serves as a Director of the Japan Wheelchair Basketball Federation, a founding member of the PRIDE1000 Corporate Management Alliance Network, an official Forbes JAPAN Web columnist, and a Pink Ribbon Advisor. Serialized Column: Breast Cancer as a "Turning Point"https://forbesjapan.com/series/breastcancer Publications: "Moms Who Use the Internet, Moms Who Don't" (2001, Softbank Publishing); "Lohas/book" (Planning & Production, 2005, Kiraku-sha)

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